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Hugos, Fan Writer, Rant Regarding

My post yesterday on Fan Writer seems to be controversial in some quarters. I don't know if this is a case of The Trouble With Stupid or malice. In any event, I shall unpack my decision. This is a bit of a rant, so those of sensitive dispositions may wish to go elsewhere.

First, per section 3.3.15 of the WSFS Constitution, Fan Writer (like Best Editor) is an award for the person. It is not, like Best Novel, an award for a particular work. It is thus perfectly acceptable to say "fan writer X is a jerk" and use that as a critique of their nomination.

Actually, it is entirely within the rules to vote based on any criterion, if you want to be a stickler for the rules. Or, people who insist on following the letter of the law do not get to lecture me on the spirit of things.

Second, David Freer is a poor writer, at least with regards to his blog. His posts are lengthy, poorly-thought-out, (see, for example, his 1500 word post on Hugo probabilities, discussed and linked to by me here) and not to me particularly entertaining.

Third, in general the Hugo nominees are asking me and the other voters for a favor. They are asking that we take time out of our day, consider their material, and in the end give one of them an award. I don't know how things work on Planet Puppy, but here on Earth, if one is asking somebody for a favor, normally the person requesting the favor attempts normal human politeness.

For those newly-arrived immigrants from Planet Puppy (and welcome, we are a nation of immigrants!) let me elaborate. Politeness means one does not accuse people of being in a secret cabal. Politeness means that one does not accuse people of voting for works (as opposed to people) because of political checklists as opposed to actually liking work. Politeness means one does not accuse people of "whisper campaigns" and when they point out the non-existence of same call them liars. Politeness (paging Mr. John C. Wright and Mr. Freer) means one does not call people "little girls" or feminine forms of their name or "trying logic with a toddler."

This does not mean one has to agree with me. It does mean that one should attempt to disagree with out being disagreeable. Now, I am a human, with all the foibles thereof, so undoubtedly I have violated this rule. Some may think that this post is an example of me violating that rule and so be it.

In any event, like umpires everywhere, I "call'em as I see'em." To me, "Fan Writer" means "writer who is appreciated by fans" and this fan does not appreciate Dave Freer.

Comments

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daveon
Jun. 3rd, 2015 12:08 pm (UTC)
Freer wasn't a total arse to me, but has been arse adjacent. Ms Green has, in fact, been an arse to me and was extremely proud of her intellectual capacity while doing so.

Seriously, the degree of arseness on display by the Puppies is almost pornographic.
chris_gerrib
Jun. 3rd, 2015 12:20 pm (UTC)
Thanks for that image I didn't need to see! :-)
baron_waste
Jun. 3rd, 2015 01:04 pm (UTC)
Y' know, I might disagree with you on things - and indeed I do, because you're wrong, y' see - but no one who has encountered an actual “Social Justice Warrior” in full toxic bloom as I have, would call you one without distorting the definition into uselessness.

Apparently, SJWs disagree with Vox, ergo any who disagree are by definition SJWs.  Um…  No, not quite.
daveon
Jun. 3rd, 2015 04:57 pm (UTC)
Vox likes to indulge in 'rhetoric' which, near as I can tell from the definition he uses, means he gets to make up shit to make points to win arguments whether or not it's true.
baron_waste
Jun. 3rd, 2015 10:45 pm (UTC)
If Chris was hung-over with the flu he couldn't be this:


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I expected her to conclude, “This is a recording - have a nice day.”
catsittingstill
Jun. 4th, 2015 10:58 am (UTC)
Over at Mad Genius Club they have the subheader "We're not really mad. We're just a little miffed."

Every time I see that I think "You're being too modest; you're barking mad. What you're really not, is geniuses."

Freer can actually write decent fiction. His expositional writing is scattered to heck an gone, very verbose and full of obvious errors of logic and fact, but his fiction is not. Maybe a different portion of the brain kicks in, or something.

Of course, for best Fan Writer, we're not considering his fiction.

I know *I'm* going to have a hard time choosing who wins that hard-fought sixth place. Freer is certainly in the running.
yamamanama
Jun. 6th, 2015 12:25 am (UTC)
They're both mad as in angry and mad as in bonkers.
yamamanama
Jun. 4th, 2015 01:54 pm (UTC)
Green and Sanderson are bigger asses but Freer is completely incoherent. The Freer post that sticks out in my mind is when he's trying to say that conservatives should win more awards because DEMOGRAPHICS! or something.

I meant Green, not Greer.

Edited at 2015-06-04 04:55 pm (UTC)
catsittingstill
Jun. 4th, 2015 08:37 pm (UTC)
As I recall my introduction to Sanderson was her implying I was promiscuous, when she knew nothing whatsoever about me.

Which, come to think of it, is exactly the sort of thing the Puppies do, except with them it tends to be accusations of secret cabals. So this is not exactly a change for her.
chris_gerrib
Jun. 4th, 2015 10:09 pm (UTC)
Color me unsurprised
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